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ABOUT

TWO FRIENDS,
ONE VERY LONG WATCHLIST

James Payne and Matt Willcock have been talking about science fiction films for years. At some point they started recording it.

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HOW THE SHOW WORKS

We explore the history of sci-fi on screen, one big idea at a time.

TWO FILMS

ONE IDEA

IN ORDER

Every episode pairs an original with the film it went on to shape, or with the film that answered shares similar themes years later.

A series takes a single science fiction idea or subgenre and follows it from its first appearance on screen to now. 

Chronologically, so you can watch a genre evolve over time. That's the bit you can't get from an ordinary review show.

124 years

1902 to 2026

200+

episodes

8

series

EOH

part of the EOH Network

THE HOSTS

JAMES PAYNE

A podcast producer and lifelong sci-fi fan who believes there is something worth discussing in almost every science fiction film, including the truly terrible ones.

On the show he is often looking for the silver lining, ready to find the good in a strange premise or an ambitious misfire.

MATT WILLCOCK

Grew up watching Star Trek and has a deep love for low-budget, high-concept science fiction. Where James leans Star Wars, Matt is firmly on the Star Trek side of the galaxy.

On the show he balances the host duties with a sharp eye for what works and what doesn't.

WHAT PEOPLE SAY

Praised for going far beyond the obvious canon.

Described as the sci-fi podcast listeners had been waiting for.

Called fantastically researched and consistently interesting.

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