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Are Monsters Born or Made? - The Boys from Brazil (1978) & Das Experiment (2001)

  • James Payne
  • Sep 11
  • 2 min read

Updated: Nov 2

What happens when mad science goes from the lab to the real world? Matt and James tackle two chilling experiments in human control — The Boys from Brazil (1978) and Das Experiment (2001). From cloning Hitler to psychological manipulation behind bars, these films expose the darkest extremes of scientific ambition. Expect moral panic, prison mayhem, cloned chaos, and the ethics of playing god in the name of research.

“When science stops asking ‘should we?’ the answer is always disaster.”
The Boys From Brazil and Das Experiment
The Boys From Brazil and Das Experiment

Episode highlights

  • Science without conscience: The hubris of human experimentation across eras.

  • Cloning Hitler: How The Boys from Brazil turns genetic theory into pulp horror.

  • Laurence Olivier vs. Gregory Peck: Two acting titans in a moral face-off.

  • The real experiments: Inspired by the Milgram and Stanford Prison experiments.

  • Control as contagion: How Das Experiment turns social psychology into a ticking time bomb.

  • Mad scientists as authority figures: Doctors, guards, leaders — all corrupted by their own systems.

  • Ethics in crisis: What both films say about the dangers of dehumanising data.

  • From pulp to prestige: The shifting tone of mad science between the ’70s and 2000s.

  • Legacy and influence: Why these cautionary tales still resonate in the era of AI and surveillance.


Chapter markers / timestamps

  • 00:00:00 Cold open: sinister lab ambience and film quotes.

  • 00:00:36 Welcome & setup — human experiments in mad science.

  • 00:02:42 The Boys from Brazil — Ira Levin’s premise and Hollywood adaptation.

  • 00:06:12 Nazi science & cloning panic in the late 1970s.

  • 00:10:50 Gregory Peck’s Mengele — science twisted by ideology.

  • 00:15:18 Laurence Olivier’s Nazi hunter and moral ambiguity.

  • 00:20:22 Real-world cloning debates — from Dolly the Sheep to bioethics.

  • 00:24:36 Tone clash: pulp thriller vs. prestige performance.

  • 00:30:44 Transition to Das Experiment.

  • 00:32:02 The Stanford Prison Experiment connection.

  • 00:35:10 Power, control, and roleplay — science turned psychological horror.

  • 00:39:44 The descent into chaos — when guards go mad.

  • 00:44:56 Performance highlights: Moritz Bleibtreu’s unravelling.

  • 00:49:22 The ethics of observation — when study becomes cruelty.

  • 00:54:08 Comparing tones: The Boys from Brazil’s operatic flair vs. Das Experiment’s grim realism.

  • 01:00:34 Realism vs. spectacle in cinematic experiments.

  • 01:06:50 Mad science as social mirror — control, identity, and authority.

  • 01:13:24 The modern legacy — from Black Mirror to AI ethics.

  • 01:23:46 Outro & next time tease.


Show notes & references mentioned

Films & TV

  • The Boys from Brazil (1978)

  • Das Experiment (2001)

  • The Experiment (2010)

  • Black Mirror (2011–)

  • Coma (1978)

  • Frankenstein (1931)

  • The Fly (1986)

  • Gattaca (1997)


People & concepts

  • Gregory Peck, Laurence Olivier, Ira Levin, Franklin J. Schaffner

  • Oliver Hirschbiegel, Moritz Bleibtreu

  • The Stanford Prison Experiment (Philip Zimbardo, 1971)

  • The Milgram Obedience Study (1961)

  • Bioethics, genetic cloning, social control, Nazi science


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    Credits

    Hosts: Matt & JamesSeries: Mad ScienceEpisode: The Boys from Brazil (1978) & Das Experiment (2001)Produced by: Journey Through Sci‑Fi


    Next time

    Prepare to lose your sense of self as we explore Altered States (1980) and Upstream Color (2013) — two films that turn consciousness into the ultimate experiment.


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